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Old 6th Dec 2004, 05:30 AM   #61
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300 ping is better than what us Aussies get on so-called "high speed" connection
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 07:12 AM   #62
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Ahhh well. One day.. I dream of a world FREE OF LAG.. everyone will have ZERO ping... that day will come my friend... we will all be dead, but it will come.
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 07:25 AM   #63
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I am a noob having started about a year and a half ago. And I STILL play like a noob. That will be my legacy. But I have been kicking butt on UT04.

I thought LR was an OK guy because he stated he puts the toilet seat down. Of course he could have been lying. Then in that case....grrrrr.

btw...what is ping? I know what to look for as 'ping' but what does it actually stand for? And what does LAG stand for?
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 07:33 AM   #64
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Ping is the time in mili seconds it takes for you computer to send a packet to the server and recieve it again.
So with a ping of 1000 you would experience a 1 second lag, time that i takes for the server to know what your doing and you to know what the server is doing.
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 07:35 AM   #65
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Ping time is latency - how long your data takes to travel to the server and back to your computer. Say, in UT04, you have a ping of 40 - that's 40milliseconds from your computer to the server and back (I believe - might be a bit off, but it'll do as a rough guide). Ping was just the name of a computer tool written by some bloke to check data transfer between two computers.

Lag is when ping times skyrocket for any number of reasons, and you get ridiculous slow-downs or you see people warp around, etc.

edit - that crazy fella MB jumped in, curse you - you too mach
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 07:37 AM   #66
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Ping = The amount of time in milliseconds it takes a signal sent from your computer to reach the server and back again. so 500 ping is 1/2 a second delay. Ping doesn't stand for anything, but you can "ping" another computer from windows through the DOS prompt. I use it at work for diagnosing network issues.

LAG = A sudden change in ping for the worse, I.E. Suddenly my bro starts downloading cat porn and my Ping leaps up to 2000, because the bandwidth on my connection is all sucked up by him and his feline fantasys. Leaving less for the connection to crackaz. Because I now experiance a ping higher than I would normally I'm Lagging, if my brother stops (or finishes as the case may be!) then my lag will cease.

Often the server "lags" and everyone has a higher ping for a brief period of time.

Hope that helps.

EDIT : Oh Em JEE! everyone helps the girl!
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 07:41 AM   #67
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 Originally Posted by TheMachine:
Suddenly my bro starts downloading cat porn and my Ping leaps up to 2000, because the bandwidth on my connection is all sucked up by him and his feline fantasys.
You've gotta be deadset joking!!!
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 08:06 AM   #68
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You've gotta be deadset joking!!!
No!

My ping really does increase!
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 09:18 AM   #69
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ROFLMAO!

*Glances around, hoping the office filters don't pick up on "cat porn"*
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 09:44 AM   #70
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 Originally Posted by Shug:
edit - that crazy fella MB jumped in, curse you - you too mach
To fast for j00. - you too mach
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 10:17 AM   #71
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But at WHAT PRICE, MB?

Clearly your explanation lacked detail and pizzazz
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 10:56 AM   #72
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 Originally Posted by TheMachine:
Ahhh well. One day.. I dream of a world FREE OF LAG.. everyone will have ZERO ping... that day will come my friend... we will all be dead, but it will come.
Don't be so sure. The amount of bandwidth isn't increasing as fast as the amount of information games need to send. The internet technology isn't keeping up with the game technology; pings are getting worse...
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 11:13 AM   #73
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 Originally Posted by Shug:
But at WHAT PRICE, MB?

Clearly your explanation lacked detail and pizzazz
Clearly the target audience wasn't in need of a detailed explination, just a simple one explaining the terms.

You just angry cause i'm cooler then you.
I mean jeez, you haven't even got a hat on!
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 04:44 PM   #74
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 Originally Posted by Shug:
Ping was just the name of a computer tool written by some bloke to check data transfer between two computers.
The bloke in question was the late Mike Muuss (for all ya' trivia types).

Another reason zero ping will not happen any time soon (even if they get bandwidth thing figured out) is a server updates information once within a fixed time interval. So, it recieves information from a players computer, does stuff, then sends new information to the players computer. I believe this is why AI do not have zero pings.

I do believe the day to be coming though when connection speed is nowhere near the bottle neck as the server computer itself.
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 04:49 PM   #75
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 Originally Posted by Thebos:
I believe this is why AI do not have zero pings.
I may be wrong here but I seem to remember the thievery AI all having 0 ping in an older version. Then they introduced AI with pings because the 0 ping AI were very uber. Hopefully this actually happened and i'm not imagining things.
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 07:08 PM   #76
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In the normal UT, all the bots online have a ping of 0. In TUT though, the AI Guards have pings. In UT2k4 the bots have a ping of 0.
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 07:10 PM   #77
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 Originally Posted by Master-Builder:
I mean jeez, you haven't even got a hat on!
I'm avoiding the trend, that makes me CUTTING EDGE and hardcore
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 07:33 PM   #78
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Hmm- seems I was wrong yet again. Oh well.
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Old 6th Dec 2004, 09:43 PM   #79
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Well thanks! Now it all makes sense....except for the cat porn.
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Old 7th Dec 2004, 02:22 AM   #80
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 Originally Posted by littlek:
Well thanks! Now it all makes sense....except for the cat porn.
Damn, then you've missed out on an integral part of the explination, I don't think you'll ever understand without getting your head round the cat porn. I'm sorry.

MB - I'm coming for you, I know where you live... and no, it's not going to be pretty. Hide yourself, your family, your pets, your belongings, The steel dildo of retribution approuches.

Shug - There is nothing "hard" about your core. You know of what I refer to.

All you Zero pingers!!! I did mention the day would come, but I did also say we would all be dead by the time that day does come... well, you puny humans will be anyway!
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Old 7th Dec 2004, 02:59 AM   #81
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 Originally Posted by TheMachine:
Hide yourself, your family, your pets, your belongings,
Dude, don't waste your breath, all he ever has is crates...
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Old 7th Dec 2004, 04:36 AM   #82
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 Originally Posted by TheMachine:
Shug - There is nothing "hard" about your core. You know of what I refer to.
I know, I know... the old nuclear power plant gamble hasn't worked out very well for me ~D-:
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Old 7th Dec 2004, 09:39 AM   #83
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TMach, that post of yours was incredibly disturbing!
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Old 7th Dec 2004, 04:17 PM   #84
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 Originally Posted by Fuzzy Bunny:
In the normal UT, all the bots online have a ping of 0. In TUT though, the AI Guards have pings. In UT2k4 the bots have a ping of 0.

Well, bots only have a ping of zero because there aren't bots in multiplayer. Did you notice that human players also have a ping of zero in single player? That's because it's not pinging anything- it IS the server, and it's useless to talk to itself, it just renders.

Thievery, on the other hand, is an online game, and bots DO have ping, because it's in the bot coding. IT supposedly will help keep players on the same track when bots walk about, because the bots talk to other computers to figure out where they are, but mostly on hte serverstill, so you still can get wierd lag issues.
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Old 7th Dec 2004, 04:39 PM   #85
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... Or maybe the ping for bots is just a fun gimmick that doesn't have any effect?
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Old 7th Dec 2004, 04:50 PM   #86
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 Originally Posted by Master-Builder:
... Or maybe the ping for bots is just a fun gimmick that doesn't have any effect?
Dunno why but I vote on this one.
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Old 7th Dec 2004, 04:50 PM   #87
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it's not high enough to do anything at all anyways, but it's fun to brag when on crackaz, you beat out the AI pings
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Old 7th Dec 2004, 06:15 PM   #88
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 Originally Posted by Shug:
I'm avoiding the trend, that makes me CUTTING EDGE and hardcore
Here you go.
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Old 7th Dec 2004, 07:17 PM   #89
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