Runtime Error with Telic

**Ki!ler-Mk1** · 21 Oct 2009, 12:39 PM

Its not a solution, but have you tried makinga fresh ASw 3.2 install and then litting it dl telic from a server, takes time, but you'll be able to see if telic is even able to work, and then you'll have gained nothing.

**JohnnyTheWolf** · 21 Oct 2009, 01:18 PM

Well, I'm not exactly sure how to do this. I remember trying to attempt a connection with an empty server and it started downloading Telic stuff. However, once it's done, the map loads and it doesn't seem like I have access to any of the expansion features.

**JohnnyTheWolf** · 21 Oct 2009, 06:48 PM

Okay, I tried downloading the EFR-less Telic package from ModDB. To my surprise, the game actually loads only to crash a few seconds later. It's only when I install EFR that I get Runtime Error.

**Fuzzy Bunny** · 21 Oct 2009, 08:14 PM

Make sure your Swarm install is patched up to the most recent version.

**JohnnyTheWolf** · 21 Oct 2009, 09:21 PM

It is. Alien Swarm runs flawlessly with patch 1.32. But it won't load Telic stuff. It just won't.

I'm starting to suspect that the packages are corrupted or something, because I can't see what else could cause the problem.

**Ki!ler-Mk1** · 22 Oct 2009, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by JohnnyTheWolf View Post

Well, I'm not exactly sure how to do this. I remember trying to attempt a connection with an empty server and it started downloading Telic stuff. However, once it's done, the map loads and it doesn't seem like I have access to any of the expansion features.

Moduvamod!
Are you refering to offline play or play, in the server, if the server is on a non telic camp this could be the case.

**JohnnyTheWolf** · 22 Oct 2009, 08:06 AM

No, no. As soon as I install anything from Telic, Alien Swarm starts crashing as soon as I start the game. This is how it works:

- I extract Telic+EFR 1.1 in my UT2004 directory.
- I double-click on AS.exe
- Runtime Error message

By installing only Telic 1.0 (sans EFR features), it goes like this:

- I double-click on AS.exe
- The main menu loads up
- Crash to desktop

Or alternatively :

- I double-click on Telic .bat file
- Telic lobby loads up
- Crash to desktop

See what I mean?

**lightfoot** · 22 Oct 2009, 03:08 PM

I only ever got runtime error crashes when a recource was missing. Same of course when a recource is not in the place it is expected to be.

Check that you have a folder structure like this after installing/extracting: in the UT2004 folder, there are the "UT recource folders", like Animations or Music or Sounds or System, and besides those, the AlienSwarm folder, which AGAIN has very similar recource subfolders. These AS subfolders are the place where the Telic stuff would normally go, and directly, I mean, no more subfolders inside those.

Not so sure about that, but Swarm should find a recource in both places, means it shouldn't matter if say a texture file is in UT2004/Textures or in UT2004/AlienSwarm/Textures.

But it sure won't find it for example in UT2004/AlienSwarm/AlienSwarm/Textures/ or other imaginable places like Textures/Telic/... or whatever. (No I am not thinking you are stupid, such "wrong extraction" things have happened to me several times.)

You seem to have put the recources into the direct UT2004 subs. It should work too, when done right, means with pure recources (=not with the System stuff), and maybe with the exception of music, but in general, that's not how things normally are, see above.

This is, btw, like most UT mods are organised, so sorry if I am telling you nothing new.

I didn't make things much clearer, did I? Could have posted a screenshot of the folder structure instead, but my UT is just not representative, with a quazillion of mods and stuff installed. Maybe someone else can show you a 'clean' picture.

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Of course it could be, and prolly is, something completely different.

The other thing that comes to my mind is, UT doesn't like spaces in path names, so a ".../Games/UT2004/..." folder is good, but a ".../My Games/UT2004/..." folder is not.
But maybe this one only applies to when you use the editor.

EDIT:

while what I said before isn't wrong, I now did what I should have done in the 1st place, took a closer look at that log you posted:

those 4 first warnings "Missing Cubemaps" etc. look familiar, that's probably not the problem, I recall it came with Telic and ain't critical.

Things start seriously going wrong with "The file '../StaticMeshes/Primeval_SM.usx' contains unrecognizable data"

So it appears like that package IS found, but is corrupted somehow. So the solution could be to just download the Telic zip again. And, of course, extract to the right place afterwards.

Let's hope that does it, but if not, keep trying, and call back here. I don't remember a single case where the game was REALLY uninstallable.

**JohnnyTheWolf** · 23 Oct 2009, 07:35 AM

Yes well, if the package is corrupted, I think I'm running out of option. I tried downloading Telic 1.0 and Telic/EFR 1.1 from ModDB and Alienswarm.de, but both must be corrupted somehow. I'm also sure I extracted them correctly.

As for the Community edition executable, well... UT2004 won't recognize .UT4MOD and every attempt to make it doing so failed. When I tried opening the .ut4mod with UT2004.exe, it gave me another Running Error message.

I really don't get it. I'm still using the same computer than before and my digital copy is 100% legit.

**Fuzzy Bunny** · 24 Oct 2009, 02:14 AM

I think you open .ut4mod files with Setup.exe in the UT2004/System directory.

**Ki!ler-Mk1** · 24 Oct 2009, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyTheWolf View Post

I really don't get it. I'm still using the same computer than before and my digital copy is 100% legit.

Well, you could find someone here who has decent upload(not me ive only got 20kb/s) who can send you "an" not "their" install of ASw 3.2 + telic/efr, in a single folder which iirc would contain 2 folders, "alienswarm" and "music" and you could place them in ur ut2004 folder. im not sure if it would need to be an install that has never been ran or not. Who knows maybe you need a new pc.

**lightfoot** · 24 Oct 2009, 01:40 PM

Let's try something.

GameFront - Mods | Maps | News | Guides | Videos

http://www.filefront.com/14785563/Primeval_SM.usx

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Get it and put it into UT2004/StaticMeshes. Just to see what happens then.

**JohnnyTheWolf** · 26 Oct 2009, 10:59 AM

Okay, I'm back home. Sorry for the slow response.

So, I tried again with your file this time and, what do you know, it is finally working, at least so far.Did you change something to Primeval_SM.usx?

In any case, problem solved. Thanks a thousand.

**lightfoot** · 26 Oct 2009, 03:34 PM

No change. So it wasn't AS, but that file, from vanilla Unreal, that was corrupted.

You are welcome. So we may see you in the game these days?

Note that multiplayer swarming is a very different experience. But there aren't so many active swarmers in the western hemisphere, so it will help to announce the time you want to play online, here at the forums.
Another good thing is joining the steam BCG group, so you can see who is in the game, if any.

Runtime Error with Telic

Runtime Error with Telic

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