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Old 5th Jul 2005, 02:31 PM   #1
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Reducing Running Processes...AKA, what the hell is all this shit.

I was just having some lockups and the first thing I do when that happens is Ctrl-Alt-Dlt. So, I took at look at my running processes, and this is whats in there:

Name------------User Name (JY is me)

Taskmgr.exe
Firefox.exe
Flash.exe
Macromedia Licensing.exe
svchost.exe
alg.exe
svchost.exe
naPrdMgr.exe
nvsvc32.exe
vstskmgr.exe
mcshield.exe
FrameworkService.exe
ctfmon.exe
jusched.exe
realsched.exe
rundll32.exe
point32.exe
explorer.exe
spoolsv.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
trillian.exe
svchost.exe
lsass.exe
services.exe
winlogon.exe
csrss.exe
smss.exe
System
System Idle Process

What the hell is all this stuff, and why is there like 5 of that one. Is there anything there you'll think I can get rid of? I know what the ones like Trillian, and Flash, and Firefox are about, but some of those mgr's and other crap...?

And when I go to the "performance" tab, whats the "PF Usage" about? If any of you have a link where I can read about all this stuff, that'd be cool too.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 03:09 PM   #2
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The easiest way to find out what each process is, is to google it. There are loads of process information sites out there.

This one for an example.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 03:43 PM   #3
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PF is 'page file'; the amount of harddrive space being used as (rather slow) RAM. As for those processes, at a glance most of them look familiar and legit.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 04:08 PM   #4
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Most of those are system processes. For the ones that aren't, I recommend msconfig, which comes standard with windows, except win2k. If you're using 2000 (MS brought it back in XP), it's easily downloadable, so search on google. Msconfig lists most of the startup programs, and simple check boxes can diable them. Besides that, check out the "Services" utility, which is found by running this:

%SystemRoot%\system32\services.msc /s

I'm on windows2k, so it could be different if you have XP. That utility displays a lot of random "services" that could be running, and you might not need. Most of them have a short description, otherwise, google it.

To me,
jusched.exe
realsched.exe
Flash.exe
Macromedia Licensing.exe
and some others look like a waste of memory.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 04:18 PM   #5
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 Originally Posted by mOdEtWo:
This one for an example.
I'm a tad confused about this one:

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This program [svchost.exe] is important for the stable and secure running of your computer and should not be terminated.
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svchost.exe is a process which is registered as the W32.Welchia.Worm. It takes advantage of the Windows LSASS vulnerability, which creates a buffer overflow and instigates your computer to shut down.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 04:23 PM   #6
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You certainly have a lot of svchosts. I only have 2, a LOCAL SERVICE and a NETWORK SERVICE.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 04:32 PM   #7
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I have

4 System svchost.exe's
2 Network Service svchost.exe's
1 Local Service svchost.exe

Whats up with that?!

They all have different Mem usage stats, too. Even the ones in the same categories.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 04:34 PM   #8
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The number running seems to vary. The computer here has 7, and I know it is completely virus free.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 05:14 PM   #9
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Straight from microsoft

AFAIK, the more services running (see my post above), the more svchosts .
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 05:38 PM   #10
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Alright. Well, I did manage to get rid of some useless junk.

Thank you all very much for the help!
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 06:50 PM   #11
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Explorer.exe is completely useless. You should end that process automatically each time you boot your machine.

Don't actually try this.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 06:54 PM   #12
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Yes, thank you LR. Go try your "bow upgrade" style tricks on someone else.

I found out about explorer.exe a couple years ago, before I threw that computer away.
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Old 5th Jul 2005, 06:59 PM   #13
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Definitely kill that Macromedia Licensing rubbish
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Old 6th Jul 2005, 12:01 AM   #14
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Taskmgr.exe
Firefox.exe
Flash.exe
Macromedia Licensing.exe
svchost.exe
alg.exe
svchost.exe
naPrdMgr.exe
nvsvc32.exe
vstskmgr.exe
mcshield.exe
FrameworkService.exe
ctfmon.exe
jusched.exe
realsched.exe
rundll32.exe
point32.exe
explorer.exe
spoolsv.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
trillian.exe
svchost.exe
lsass.exe
services.exe
winlogon.exe
csrss.exe
smss.exe
System
System Idle Process


I'd turn off any of the processes in red before starting up a game.
Processes in darkred are personal programs which only you can decide to keep on or off. But if they were off you'd get faster frames etc etc.
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Old 6th Jul 2005, 02:57 AM   #15
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Trillian actually takes up a remarkably large chunk of memory. I run it on the server now to avoid clogging up the games machine. :-/

M2 is right, if in doubt, google a process.
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Old 6th Jul 2005, 10:39 AM   #16
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Yeah, what's up with these small programs taking up large amounts of memory? Why does Y! need 60MB of memory? It's just a chat window! Firefox, after running it for 90 minutes, is taking up 58MB of memory. I thought Firefox was supposed to have a small footprint.
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Old 6th Jul 2005, 01:39 PM   #17
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Firefox has a memory cache, and then there's the plugins. My firefox currently uses 92MB of memory, it's an optimised build with a bunch of stuff statically linked, it's been running for at least a day, currently has 4 tabs open, some ~15 plugins and extensive adblocking lists, etc. It all adds up really fast.

However it's not like your framerate will suffer merely because of other tasks sitting there using memory. Windows will simply swap them, this takes time however, so games will take longer to load and when you've stopped gaming firefox will take a few seconds to appear when you select it. Someone messaging you on trillian may cause all that to happen while your gaming, so i would recommend you shut that off. If you have to IM while gaming, i can highly recommend XFire
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Old 6th Jul 2005, 05:10 PM   #18
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Garlisk, please see my post in the thread below for some other resources for identifying and eliminating unneeded processes.

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthr...threadid=41940
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