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Old 5th Jun 2012, 03:57 AM   #1
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Korman by FRH

 Originally Posted by Alex:
oh yes, redoing someones work, should be much appreciated...
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all of your life you're redoing someone's work. Innovation via follow up
Where I сould dl previous version of this map which is in rotation on Promod server currently?
Probably some one has own opinion about gameplay on that map. Here place to share it.
Thank you very much.
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Old 5th Jun 2012, 05:16 AM   #2
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Isnt it this?
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Old 5th Jun 2012, 06:16 AM   #3
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Your web site has TH-Korman_FRH.unr, Brody.
I just now had voted on Promod server for TH-KormanFRH.unr.
Dl speed on Shug's server is terrible and it's very not easy to play on his server now.
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Old 5th Jun 2012, 09:43 AM   #4
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Please try to rename my one with the correspondending name on Shugs Server.

I guess, there is the same File running, just with given different Names.

I dont guess, there is an other one created by FRH.

Should i am right and it runs the same File, rename will do it.
Should i am wrong, you ll get a MSG about different Version of File.

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Old 5th Jun 2012, 10:01 AM   #5
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Before posting here I'd already version mismatch.
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Old 6th Jun 2012, 08:26 AM   #6
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did you try what brody said tho? rename your version to have same name as the one on Promod? if not you will have to get fat or shug to email you that version
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Old 6th Jun 2012, 08:42 AM   #7
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In previous my post I'd said that I tried that trick
So you thinking that playing on this map is worth trying, Keggie? Why do you think so?
It's very nice advice about emailing map specially for me.
P.S. Fat or Shug I'll get you! to email me that version.
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Old 6th Jun 2012, 07:48 PM   #8
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http://www.2shared.com/file/OVCY7AUU/TH-KormanFRH.html?
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Old 7th Jun 2012, 04:45 AM   #9
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Thank you very much, Shug.
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 08:25 AM   #10
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Map need fixing, cos sometimes crypt gem 'forgot' to spawn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQd3AK-gzU4
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Old 30th Jan 2014, 10:52 AM   #11
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Yes, though I don't think you were suffering from it on that occasion. The map had another issue, much bigger one that I wanted to get rid of, but was unable to.
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 05:24 AM   #12
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FRH How is that possible gem is not spawned?

According to my THSpawner knowledge these spawn on specified locations. So there might be additional spawner location on the map that is unacessible.

Or did I overlooked something? McF
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 06:12 AM   #13
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or it is acessible but wtafa doesnt know where it is
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 08:05 AM   #14
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 Originally Posted by FatRatHead: ( link to post ) 
Yes, though I don't think you were suffering from it on that occasion.
I recommended Brody to remove your map from rotation cos for ghoster from Wraith there is no point to play map which is unplayable by obj. Sorry.
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or it is acessible but wtafa doesnt know where it is
Sounds like a call for challenge. Are you up to guard a map against dedicated ghoster?
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 08:22 AM   #15
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 Originally Posted by Maxim Pishnyak: ( link to post ) 
I recommended Brody to remove your map from rotation cos for ghoster from Wraith there is no point to play map which is unplayable by obj. Sorry.
Lol, first stealing the guild tag, then calling himself a "dedicated ghoster" xD.

I'm pretty sure others will recommend removing the map aswell .

Maybe your playstyle has changed by now. But I still remember your playstyle in the past and it was not even close to ghosting .
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 10:41 AM   #16
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 Originally Posted by Maxim Pishnyak: ( link to post ) 
Sounds like a call for challenge. Are you up to guard a map against dedicated ghoster?
no wtafa, I think it sounds more like you still need to work on your English a bit more to understand what people write
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 01:05 PM   #17
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I wasn't gonna butt in but... lol

Sorry to say this but you can't be too dedicated of a ghoster if you didn't loot Dr. Pepper

Secondly, I don't see in the video, that you have checked the vase for loot as well. Have you?
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 03:25 PM   #18
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 Originally Posted by Trapmaster: ( link to post ) 
Lol, first stealing the guild tag.
Pretty serious statement. You should ask WildBill before saying such things. Or even google 'Wraith Thievery Guild' maybe.

From when joining inactive guild could be counted as stealing?

Now clan page is online and I could invite people from stealth game circles to play Thievery for win.

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Maybe your playstyle has changed by now.
"Now" doesn't equal to a couple last years.

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But I still remember your playstyle in the past and it was not even close to ghosting.
That's right. Community didn't propose me when I was a newbie the best playstyle ever. But during my journey through ancient forum jungles I understood what luxury I missed. Now I have much more respect to non violent type of play:
http://www.thief-haven.com/deathmatc...ing-undetected
http://www.thief-haven.com/deathmatc...ealth/sneaking

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no wtafa, I think it sounds more like you still need to work on your English a bit more to understand what people write
Your uncertain statement was understood as it should be.

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Secondly, I don't see in the video, that you have checked the vase for loot as well. Have you?
That's right. I shouldn't check vase cos this could activate mini quest that goes aside main objectives. Being ghoster is being undetected and I don't want that spawned ghost from vase would reveal my current location.
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 04:17 PM   #19
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 Originally Posted by Maxim Pishnyak: ( link to post ) 
That's right. I shouldn't check vase cos this could activate mini quest that goes aside main objectives. Being ghoster is being undetected and I don't want that spawned ghost from vase would reveal my current location.
Actually you should have. Your video shows a bug not some ghosting tactic or whatever.
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That's right. I shouldn't check vase cos this could activate mini quest that goes aside main objectives. Being ghoster is being undetected and I don't want that spawned ghost from vase would reveal my current location.
I have no idea what spawning ghost you mean, maybe you're referring to the one in the cemetery and mixing it up with crypts for some reason. I do not recall a ghost spawning after frobbing the vase in the crypts or anything inside it . But what's stopping you from checking it out yourself if you don't believe me?
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 04:39 PM   #21
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 Originally Posted by Maxim Pishnyak: ( link to post ) 
Pretty serious statement. You should ask WildBill before saying such things. Or even google 'Wraith Thievery Guild' maybe.
A simple reasoning, and not a serious statement or even accusation. "Stealing guild tag" is serious? Since there is no official statement from the guild leaders, you apparently are not in and an imposter.
An alternative would be to open up a new guild and not disrespectfully claim an old guild as yours.

Granted, I was wondering if (Wraiths) is the original tag or not.

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From when joining inactive guild could be counted as stealing?
It's called rude and a bad behaviour - that is unless the guild has declared itself towards joining without approval.

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That's right. Community didn't propose me when I was a newbie the best playstyle ever.
Oh right, ere we go with random blaming the community again .
We allowed you to join our guild back then, we introduced you to ghosting and to good sportsmanship on the server. The only thing we have seen for months have been Crack/Flash KOs and lame behaviour like earlyjoining, despite our tries to make you even listen to our words. Luckily you went off to TL later on. It might have been the better guild for you as Alex is able to translate more than we could.
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 05:00 PM   #22
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 Originally Posted by Maxim Pishnyak: ( link to post ) 
Your uncertain statement was understood as it should be.
my statement of saying its possibly been added in a 5th location that you don't know about got translated by you to, a challenge? no.. you REALLY need to work on your English..

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Actually you should have. Your video shows a bug not some ghosting tactic or whatever.
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Since there is no official statement from the guild leaders, you are not in and an imposter.
An alternative would be to open up a new guild and not disrespectfully claim an old guild as yours.

It's called rude and a bad behaviour - that is unless the guild has declared itself towards joining without approval. I already told you you have understood nothing about guilds and how guilds work. Nor that you understood what a guild is..
nooo that's not true, you can join any old guild whenever you want if you cannot contact them! ima join the RLF!! be the new guild leader! bwhahhaha
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 06:40 PM   #23
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Keggie, I had a conversation with guild leader. WildBill is still available as I wrote above and I could repeat this again and again. You're not the first one.

 Originally Posted by Trapmaster: ( link to post ) 
Since there is no official statement from the guild leaders, you are not in and an imposter.
Official statement? Imposter?

Did you see official roaster somewhere, Trap?

You wonna official statement from the guild leaders? Then you will not have much luck with this. Guild founder available only on AIM.

After web site and forum were closed the only clan page that could be found is this
http://www.thief-haven.com/thievery/clans/clan-wraith

And to this page with a nice guild description future guild members will be invited for sure.

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An alternative would be to open up a new guild and not disrespectfully claim an old guild as yours.
I'm in cos I respect great traditions of famous and known game clan. That's why I'm not interested in another ways.

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Granted, I was wondering if (Wraiths) is the original tag or not.
Original tag should be (Wraith) ofc.

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It's called rude and a bad behaviour - that is unless the guild has declared itself towards joining without approval.
I agree with your disagree.

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I already told you you have understood nothing about guilds and how guilds work. Nor that you understood what a guild is.
Being expert could you say where is your guild page, your guild roaster and your guild description?

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Oh right, ere we go with random blaming the community again .
You respond to me, I respond to you. What's wrong with this?

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We allowed you to join our guild back then, we introduced you to ghosting and to good sportsmanship on the server.
I think guild should have own page, roaster and description. Without these things and without competing with another guild/guilds your and Alex guild could be counted not as guild of players but group of players instead. Group plays for fun, guild play for win in short.

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Anyway, thank you for the flamefest. I'm better off, this will just go on as usual and it's tiring.
It wasn't my turn this time. You could easily pm me regards your problems with my decision to be a part of the best guild ever. So don't hijack the only thread about this map. Back to topic.

Keggie, Getty, Grimmy. Thank you for pointing me this fact about vase but ... is it ok when vase in original Korman launches optional quest and vase in fan made Korman is required for completing objective? Both vases in two different Kormans do opposite things. It's a bit confusing.

Vase spawn is a nice place to hide a whistler. And whistler will be hidden to thief completely. Guards can't hide whistlers fully in another gem spawn at crypts. Guards already have advantage in rectory. It has one enclosed place.

Recently I ghost that map twice. Both times rectory gem spawned on the upper floor in small bedroom. First round guards fortified this small room with tripwires and it was hell. The second round I luckily rushed at start and was able to snatch rectory gem under the Getty's nose.

As I said in 1.71 thread additional inventory items added another dimensions to the gameplay. This could change balance for some maps drastically. Isn't this beautiful and challenging? I like that this game become unpredictable again. Ghosting guard friendly map is the blast.
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That's what I mean, there is no proof or official word that you're a member. People won't believe you.

And you are right, my post was a bit over the top. Sorry for that.
(And going offtop on guild discussions was indeed not the intention).
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Bill hasn't posted in close to four years, and all you have is your own website to proclaim that you're a member of a VERY long-dead guild. Given how much pride he had in the team it's not surprising people don't believe it at your word only
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Wildbill and I had some serious differences in opinion. He didn't suffer fools so its unlikely he'd suffer you.
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Yeah, we didn't see eye to eye but I don't suffer fools either so which one us is the fool. Probably both
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Anyway, back on topic. The idea of this map was to make it sorta ghostable in low player games.
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