Lets get physical.

Kiech Bepho · 20th Feb 2003, 02:20 PM

I understand bolt/arrow damage is now dependant on its velocity. Would this also be true for items? I know we don't throw anything nearly fast enough to hurt someone, but could the objects be worked to do damage when thrown? It wouldn't have to be all of them. Just knives and a select list of other objects. This would make the environment in that we could actually do something with the items, instead of just stacking them on top of objectives.

Thanks,

Kiech

LaughingRat · 20th Feb 2003, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Kiech Bepho:

Let's get physical.

No thanks. You're not my type.

Bloody-Reaper · 20th Feb 2003, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Kiech Bepho:

I understand bolt/arrow damage is now dependant on its velocity. Would this also be true for items? I know we don't throw anything nearly fast enough to hurt someone, but could the objects be worked to do damage when thrown? It wouldn't have to be all of them. Just knives and a select list of other objects. This would make the environment in that we could actually do something with the items, instead of just stacking them on top of objectives.

Thanks,

Kiech

The UT engine lacks proper physics... So they will have to code it all.
Maybe the Thievery2003 will get better physics if it will be done... Otherwise Thief 3 should have the Deus EX: IW physics... Which is based of Havoc... Which rocks.

Omega · 20th Feb 2003, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by LaughingRat:

Originally Posted by Kiech Bepho:

Let's get physical.

No thanks. You're not my type.

Now I see why your postcount is so high.

As for the idea Kiech Bepho suggested, I like it.

What about things thrown from high places? If you throw a box on an AI it should do 1 point of damage or something like that. Or is this a dumb idea. I'm not sure yet. I'll have to think it over a bit.

[E.D.G]Chief · 21st Feb 2003, 03:30 PM

it isnt a bad idea-after all it was in Thief. Whose ever attacked a thief 2 ai with a mech hammer? :grin:

Yenzarill · 23rd Feb 2003, 04:31 AM

People have completed "Return to the Cathedral" by killing all the haunts with thrown hammers.

Lurox · 25th Feb 2003, 06:47 AM

Boxes throwed on a bot from a high place should knock him out.

-=V12US=- · 25th Feb 2003, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Lurox:

Boxes throwed on a bot from a high place should knock him out.

And kill them when thrown from a really high place

I think this is easy to code in, just have the computer count how long the object has been airborne/falling and then add damage when it exceeds a certain timeframe.

Majarisan · 3rd Mar 2003, 12:41 AM

thrown items already do damage actually. Notice how an AI say ouch when you hit him with a torch.

True story: one of the civilian prisinors in breakout fell in the vents. So I went to his cell door and threw a bowl on his head. The bowl landed on his head and he repeatedly said 'ouch' as it remained there. I left and went about the rest of the map. A few minutes later I got a message that the prisoner had died.

The dmg objects do is very slight though

Bloody-Reaper · 3rd Mar 2003, 02:40 AM

Throw a metal crate ontop of a friend who tried to mantle a wall he had to jump to reach... So he kept holding space down, and 5 secs later he was death.
They dont take damage from it. It's just a bug that kills the player.

20th Feb 2003, 03:06 PM	#3
Bloody-Reaper Member Registered: Jan 2003 Location: Behind a crate fortress...	Originally Posted by Kiech Bepho: I understand bolt/arrow damage is now dependant on its velocity. Would this also be true for items? I know we don't throw anything nearly fast enough to hurt someone, but could the objects be worked to do damage when thrown? It wouldn't have to be all of them. Just knives and a select list of other objects. This would make the environment in that we could actually do something with the items, instead of just stacking them on top of objectives. Thanks, Kiech The UT engine lacks proper physics... So they will have to code it all. Maybe the Thievery2003 will get better physics if it will be done... Otherwise Thief 3 should have the Deus EX: IW physics... Which is based of Havoc... Which rocks. __________________ "There's no problem that can't be solved with a big crate!"

21st Feb 2003, 03:30 PM	#5
[E.D.G]Chief Member Registered: Jan 2003 Location: In The Council - Where YOU Belong.	it isnt a bad idea-after all it was in Thief. Whose ever attacked a thief 2 ai with a mech hammer? :grin: __________________ A darkness is creeping over the online gaming communities, a hand ready to clutch at the gaming populace, a new evil approaches- The Bretheren Have Awoken. If you wish to join ]>CoD<[ see it's admins in game or pm us in the forums.

23rd Feb 2003, 04:31 AM	#6
Yenzarill R.I.P. Registered: Jan 2003 Location: Ost Ra'Leur	People have completed "Return to the Cathedral" by killing all the haunts with thrown hammers. __________________ .: Nightwarden - Mockers Thievery Guild :. The Nadir of Infinity

25th Feb 2003, 06:47 AM	#7
Lurox Member Registered: Jan 2003 Location: It's been too long. I'm gone now.	Boxes throwed on a bot from a high place should knock him out. __________________ I could be dead, you know!

3rd Mar 2003, 12:41 AM	#9
Majarisan Member Registered: Jan 2003	thrown items already do damage actually. Notice how an AI say ouch when you hit him with a torch. True story: one of the civilian prisinors in breakout fell in the vents. So I went to his cell door and threw a bowl on his head. The bowl landed on his head and he repeatedly said 'ouch' as it remained there. I left and went about the rest of the map. A few minutes later I got a message that the prisoner had died. The dmg objects do is very slight though __________________ "They say we cleaned out the royal treasury, and took the kings wedding ring off his finger as he slept!" "That must have taken an entire team of our best sneaks." "I heard it was lieutenant Jarvis." "Impossible!" -Two unknown CTG probies

20th Feb 2003, 02:20 PM	#1
Kiech Bepho Member Registered: Jan 2003 Location: Phoenix, Arizona	I understand bolt/arrow damage is now dependant on its velocity. Would this also be true for items? I know we don't throw anything nearly fast enough to hurt someone, but could the objects be worked to do damage when thrown? It wouldn't have to be all of them. Just knives and a select list of other objects. This would make the environment in that we could actually do something with the items, instead of just stacking them on top of objectives. Thanks, Kiech

20th Feb 2003, 02:50 PM	#2
LaughingRat Member Registered: Jan 2003	Originally Posted by Kiech Bepho: Let's get physical. No thanks. You're not my type.

20th Feb 2003, 03:33 PM	#4
Omega Member Registered: Jan 2003 Location: .nl	Originally Posted by LaughingRat: Originally Posted by Kiech Bepho: Let's get physical. No thanks. You're not my type. Now I see why your postcount is so high. As for the idea Kiech Bepho suggested, I like it. What about things thrown from high places? If you throw a box on an AI it should do 1 point of damage or something like that. Or is this a dumb idea. I'm not sure yet. I'll have to think it over a bit.

25th Feb 2003, 08:54 AM	#8
-=V12US=- Member Registered: Jan 2003 Location: Netherlands Parasite: Yes	Originally Posted by Lurox: Boxes throwed on a bot from a high place should knock him out. And kill them when thrown from a really high place I think this is easy to code in, just have the computer count how long the object has been airborne/falling and then add damage when it exceeds a certain timeframe.

3rd Mar 2003, 02:40 AM	#10
Bloody-Reaper Member Registered: Jan 2003 Location: Behind a crate fortress...	Throw a metal crate ontop of a friend who tried to mantle a wall he had to jump to reach... So he kept holding space down, and 5 secs later he was death. They dont take damage from it. It's just a bug that kills the player. __________________ "There's no problem that can't be solved with a big crate!"

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