Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

AO-Sulfure-SE

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #31
    Tell me about it..
    Phalanx Campaign
    Executive CEO of NCM Mining Co. (Corvus Campaign)

    Comment


    • #32
      I'm this close ( ) from targeting the same criticism at you, Mr. Gravity-Slingshot-Hydroelectric-Nonsense.

      Comment


      • #33
        Why cant people drop that damn hydroelectric detail... Just because the planet doesnt even have gravity to hold its own atmosphere... Oh.
        "Spera: Ooh! Ooh! You hear that? A bird singing out amidst our desolation. It's a miracle. The miracle called supper."

        --Lucifer #28, Breaking & Entering

        Comment


        • #34
          Yeah, and 'Space Station Phalanx' is a really stupid name for a planet.
          It's not my fault everything you like is terrible.

          Comment


          • #35
            Not as bad as 'Space Station Earth'

            Comment


            • #36
              A hydroelectric dam is in a space station is quite simple really, as long as it possesses a gravitational field emitter, and as people dont float about wildy, we shall presume that there is.

              I've even done a diagram for you nice people:

              HydroelectricSpaceDamRevealed.jpg

              Keep in mind that this wouldn't be the only source of power for the station, there would also be a couple of solar panels for extra p0wer.
              Phalanx Campaign
              Executive CEO of NCM Mining Co. (Corvus Campaign)

              Comment


              • #37
                Wow, Eco(in space? lol)-friendly space station.
                Alien Swarm Map List

                Comment


                • #38
                  You have to be self sufficient in space.
                  Phalanx Campaign
                  Executive CEO of NCM Mining Co. (Corvus Campaign)

                  Comment


                  • #39
                    It's really important not to pollute space or all the rare space species and plants will die out. Especially with space in space being limited and with all the new space stations, the size of their habitat is rapidly decreasing.

                    I think MjrHurtz proposal is a step forward.
                    [THN] Gaming community - www.thehavennet.org.uk
                    Proud admin of the THN AlienSwarm server #3 at 82.156.164.3:7777 and #4 at 87.117.203.96:7777. Teamspeak at: teamspeak.thehavennet.org.uk (def. port)

                    Comment


                    • #40
                      I like that explanation.

                      Comment


                      • #41
                        But MjrHuRTz haven't you got the problem that the work done is from the "gravitational field emitter", what powers that? If you say that's solar powered, the hydroelectric power is a waste of time isn't?

                        You get power from the water because it has more potential energy, but it has to get that energy from somewhere first. It's getting it from the gravitational field emitter. Presuming that was 100% efficient (unlikely), it would just be transferring energy from one form into another, not giving you any energy.

                        Comment


                        • #42
                          I was going to say similarily. I can't believe how bad an idea that is, MjrHurtz. Amazing.

                          Alright...computers are ever becoming smaller and will be using less electrical power. Weapons and maneuvering using ion thrusters would still take significant amounts, as well as certain research and development projects.

                          Solar panels are becoming more efficient...50% is considered exceptionally good by today's standards. In interplanetary space at ~1 AU from our star, you can receive about 1.4 kj/s per square meter. Assuming the space station was painted with solar cells and was at a similar effective distance and had a good compulsator or otherwise storage system, and that it didn't need to use energy weapons often...that'd probably be sufficient. A radioistope thermal generator or a mini-conventional fission reactor might be wise, however.

                          Artificial gravity fields are a cop-out. Centrifugal force ftw.

                          Comment


                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Moses2k
                            Centrifugal force ftw.
                            Indeed, but you still can't use hydroelectric power because there is no natural process (rain, tides) moving the water so that the "gravity" can move it back.

                            It would be really funny if MjrHuRTz went on to invent hydroelectric power in space

                            Comment


                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Carth
                              Indeed, but you still can't use hydroelectric power because there is no natural process (rain, tides) moving the water so that the "gravity" can move it back.

                              It would be really funny if MjrHuRTz went on to invent hydroelectric power in space
                              It's still possible in the form of solar thermal power (concentrated solar mirrors on a water-steam apparatus. Or as propulsion if you high-temp electrolyzied the water and use the H in a solar thermal rocket.

                              Comment


                              • #45
                                If you use the centrifugal force to create artifical gravity, you can build a lake and a dam in space and use the power from the solar panels to pump the water back up, effectively turning it into an energy storage system. Hydroelectric power with no river or rainfall. Even for dams on earth energy storage is an important function. Some can even pump water back up in times of excess power. Or as Moses says, use a solar boiler. You might even co-operate it as galactic distiller.

                                I'm pretty sure it rains in space though, Nasa talks about space weather pretty often.

                                A radioistope thermal generator would at all times be considered too dangerous to be used in a space station i think, the risk is amplified by the fact that it's a small contained environment. And you have no control over it's power output, which is also either low to begin with or decreasing fast, because it's a tradeoff of power output vs halflife.

                                When 50% eff solar sells are common, fusion power will be a peice of cake too. But you'd still need a place to store all that heavy water.

                                I also think MjrHurtz original idea, although effective, may be quite dangerous in the long term. After all the star's gravity has been used up, there won't be any left to hold it together and it will explode. That's not something you want to accelerate. Spacegreenpeace would protest too. It'd work on black holes, when they're not sucking in stars and nebulae across your path.
                                [THN] Gaming community - www.thehavennet.org.uk
                                Proud admin of the THN AlienSwarm server #3 at 82.156.164.3:7777 and #4 at 87.117.203.96:7777. Teamspeak at: teamspeak.thehavennet.org.uk (def. port)

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X