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  • Nachimir
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    Originally posted by BiG_D View Post
    It's not intended to be working, so I'd say it's working as intended.

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  • kangaxx
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    Originally posted by Vaddam View Post
    It's broken because, like I said earlier, they have no animations, and the Shaman has a broken running animation.
    You dont get it? Do you? Why cant you see it as some kind of bonus? Obviously the things you mention are NOT in the game. They are rather there, so that someone who wants to implement them, hasnt to do all the work from scratch...

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  • Chainsaws
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    I second that motion my good chum!

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  • Machine
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    If you'd locked the thread with that comment, my love for you would have been unending.

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  • BiG_D
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    It's not intended to be working, so I'd say it's working as intended.

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  • Vaddam
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    It's broken because, like I said earlier, they have no animations, and the Shaman has a broken running animation.

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  • immortius
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    UT2004 had lots of references to removed UT functionality, for instance (specifically the lighting system comes to mind). Stalker (the first one) had an artificial life system that was only partially implemented which fans created a mod to finish.

    It isn't really broken functionality if it was never completed in the first place.

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  • Nachimir
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    Originally posted by Vaddam View Post
    If they cut them away, they wouldn't be in the code and broken for us to find
    Actually, that's quite common in game development. Features often get dropped for various reasons, and sometimes stripping them out completely is far more hassle than it's worth.

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  • Dread
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    Originally posted by Vaddam View Post
    If they cut them away, they wouldn't be in the code and broken for us to find and be excited about and ask them to fix it.
    Sure they would, why wouldn't they be? Do you think every piece of hardware or software you've ever had or used was perfect upon reception? Some developers leave a TON of code behind or just leave it in for the sake of leaving it in even if it's unused. This is normal and half of the time it's meant as a reminder for them to either work on it later, or let someone else (IE: the skilled among the community) deal with it.

    Just because it's there in some shape, form or just mentioned implies nothing other than it was an idea that never made it into the product you're currently enjoying. Does it mean that maybe later they'll incorporate it? The answer is obviously a maybe until proven otherwise. It would be nice to see them complete it or have someone else from the community take a crack at it. But it's ultimately up to the developers as to whether they actually make use of it in a future update.

    So until we hear otherwise it might be best to just drop it

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  • clOWN
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    Really?

    Did you look at the Kotor2 deal? They were not gona fix the extra stuff they cut. They left it in the PC version with the possibility that modders would finish it.

    I'm sure they are passionate about their work even if it is a Star wars money making machine.

    If you release a game and your employer wants you to start on another title immediately, your probably not gonna finish the last "job" because you felt like it.

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  • Vaddam
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    Originally posted by DON'T PANIC View Post
    What do you mean by "SHOULD"? Are you suggesting that the developers have some sort of categorical imperative to keep working on discarded fragments of code etc...?

    What if before releasing the game, they went through everything, and cut everything that didn't make it into the game, leaving no "unused ice chips" behind. Would this imperative still exist?
    If they cut them away, they wouldn't be in the code and broken for us to find and be excited about and ask them to fix it.

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  • clOWN
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    What?

    Mods are usually made because the coders left their unfinished dream for community to finish. I look at Unfinished code and other items as a calling; While people like you see it as a to do list the Devs MUST finish.

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  • DON'T PANIC
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    Originally posted by Vaddam View Post
    Dat is whut I mean. They SHOULD be fixing them, somehow SOMETIME, because they should know modders would eventually find them and they made this game to be modded.
    What do you mean by "SHOULD"? Are you suggesting that the developers have some sort of categorical imperative to keep working on discarded fragments of code etc...?

    What if before releasing the game, they went through everything, and cut everything that didn't make it into the game, leaving no "unused ice chips" behind. Would this imperative still exist?

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  • Vaddam
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    Originally posted by immortius View Post
    I'm afraid you'll have to spell it out for me, because I can't work out how your addition to the metaphor maps back to the topic at hand. The block of ice represented the starting point of construction, and the chips of ice were the discarded fragments generated by the process of creation. How can you take the latter to make the former, and what would that mean?

    Arguments via metaphor are prone to these sorts of shenanigans.

    At any rate, the point is there is no reason to expect the devs to go back and do further work on these discarded elements. The fact that they are not part of the game shows a conscious decision on their part to exclude them for whatever reason. They may do it if they decide to add an extra campaign using these features, but otherwise I doubt they would - and it is unlikely to happen in the immediate future. So either complete these things yourself - even if it means starting from scratch to make what you need - or else wait and hope they get completed in the future. Either way demanding the completion of these unused elements is outright rude.
    Dat is whut I mean. They SHOULD be fixing them, somehow SOMETIME, because they should know modders would eventually find them and they made this game to be modded.

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  • Idle_Wild
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    I think the original question was simple enough and hasn't been addressed yet. Are there any plans to incorporate unused game assets and further develop the game other than bug fixes?

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