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    http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...3033640C157944

    Ouch.

  • #2
    OOO nasty,

    I get by by simply being ugly as sin tho <- now THAT is a good deterrent.

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    It is sad that somebody has thought that something like this is required to help prevent rape, but I guess thats the world we live in, and I don't know the situation which has caused them to begin developing something this... perhaps a family member or friend subjected to the crime?
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    • #3
      It's a good idea, but i can see a downside to it. You can't see that a woman is wearing it, the rapist will have to beleive her word and let her go. If he doesn't do that (because it'll probably sound like a desperate attempt to get released), she'll still be raped, and when that thing bites the penis, the pain might make him violent.

      Strange world we live in, indeed. And rape's the least of South Africa's worries.
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      • #4
        And i thought being butt-ugly was good enough these days.

        I agree, pestcontrol, that such pain would make a rapist violent. Of all the reasons for turning rapist (pure insanity, unbalanced hormones, anger, fear, etc.) every one will induce violent tendancies when (pardon the pun) coupled with pain.
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        • #5
          I see it getting women hurt or killed, because it's... effectively the opening move in a fight. If they can't back it up to fend the rapist off, like PestControl says it might make them violent. If they try to use it as a threat, the rapist might just find a way to remove it first. Also, it only gets the first perpetrator of a gang rape, and is likely to make the rest of the gang vindictive.

          Lisa Vetten, quoted in the article, in none too bright a spark. The comparison to chastity belts is weak to say the least: they're largely a myth, and the most verifiable instances of them are where they're used as protection against rape rather than a tool of oppression. (PM me if you want the source, as other pages at the site are decidedly against the forum rules I find it interesting that they're popularly viewed as a method for patriarchal societies to subdue female sexuality, when it turns out that most documented cases are of the restriction of male sexuality).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pestcontrol
            And rape's the least of South Africa's worries.
            EXCUSE ME??? I think you'd better explain yourself! South Africa is the rape capital of the world (although the murder rate is also high).

            Last year, there were 52 733 reported rapes. In a study, the Gender-Based Violence Programme at the CSVR analysed 162 rapes in Johannesburg's inner city and found that one in four had been a gang rape. The study found that 56 percent of the victims had been raped by two men and 23 percent by three.
            I think there are cultural problems behind the mass rapes in South Africa but I strongly suggest that you apologise to all the women on this forum for your ignorant and hurtful comments (if you said that in my presence I'd knock all your teeth out).
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            • #7
              Like Nachimir, I really don't see this being terribly effective. I think a can of mace or the like would probably be a better choice.

              Originally posted by Convict
              I think there are cultural problems behind the mass rapes in South Africa but I strongly suggest that you apologise to all the women on this forum for your ignorant and hurtful comments (if you said that in my presence I'd knock all your teeth out).
              I strongly suggest you apologize to all the men on this forum for your ignorant and hurtful comments implying than only women can be raped.

              And before you go knocking out teeth, I suggest you find the context that quote was intended in.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by TheMachine
                I get by by simply being ugly as sin tho <- now THAT is a good deterrent.
                So by the same logic, women should prevent rape by being ugly as sin.

                Not a humerous subject.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Convict
                  EXCUSE ME??? I think you'd better explain yourself! South Africa is the rape capital of the world (although the murder rate is also high).
                  As you said, besides the very large number of rapes, South Africa has the highest murder rate of any nation in the world, and a very high percentage of AIDS infections. There used to be a weekly column in the news paper of a retired doctor who moved there and ran a little hospital in a township somewhere. It's further from this world than some of the fantasy i've read.

                  From wikipedia: "21.5% of the South African population have been estimated to be HIV positive in 2004"
                  That's 9.5 million people. Presidend Thao Mbeki is a denialist.

                  And all of those staticstics are just symptoms, the real problems are poverty, society, culture and politics imho.


                  I've been trying to think of something better.. perhaps a chemical solution that only starts working after a few hours, and possibly some form of unique tracer that can act as a marker and legal proof.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Radamanthus
                    I agree, pestcontrol, that such pain would make a rapist violent. Of all the reasons for turning rapist (pure insanity, unbalanced hormones, anger, fear, etc.) every one will induce violent tendancies when (pardon the pun) coupled with pain.
                    Apparently there's no pain. The article states that the rapist wouldn't even be aware of such a device until he withdrew. It's only an attempt to remove it that would result in any pain and damage.

                    Originally posted by Pestcontrol
                    I've been trying to think of something better.. perhaps a chemical solution that only starts working after a few hours, and possibly some form of unique tracer that can act as a marker and legal proof.
                    That's a nice thought, but it probably wouldn't be as effective at getting the criminal in custody. A marker, on the skin or in the bloodstream would eventually "wear off", quite possibly before the criminal was caught. In any event, it doesn't induce the sense of immediacy this device does.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Thief13x
                      most women these days deserve to be raped ...or should I say, stuckup bitches


                      Originally posted by LaughingRat
                      Apparently there's no pain. The article states that the rapist wouldn't even be aware of such a device until he withdrew. It's only an attempt to remove it that would result in any pain and damage.
                      Still, a device that renders them identifiable would probably still make them meaner.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Thief13x
                        most women these days deserve to be raped ...or should I say, stuckup bitches
                        Careful what you say there Timmy that's really an innoble thought, no person man/woman should experience to be raped. It does not only interfere with a persons sanity, it interferes with their life. Those who get raped, will in some cases not have sex again, because of the memory they have gained. And it probably hunts them through their entire life.

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                        • #13
                          Precisely, i think all the men here can relate to your frustrations, but this just isn't the thread.

                          My idea was that the rapist(s) do not, at that time, know they are being marked and/or getting some chemical on them that's nasty and takes some time to work. This is because i can't think of anything that would help a woman getting raped at the actual moment, save regular lethal or nonlethal weapons.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Thief13x
                            most women these days deserve to be raped ...or should I say, stuckup bitches
                            You know, men also get raped. It happends. If they 'deserve' it or not is up tp you to 'judge', but maybe you should buy a device such as that yourself?

                            It shouldn't be named anti-rape device tho, as it doesn't stop a rape from happening. It might, however, enable the police to identify rapers;

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mOdEtWo
                              You know, men also get raped. It happends. If they 'deserve' it or not is up tp you to 'judge', but maybe you should buy a device such as that yourself?

                              It shouldn't be named anti-rape device tho, as it doesn't stop a rape from happening. It might, however, enable the police to identify rapers;

                              "You're under arrest! Gently pull down your pants and show us your willie!"


                              Now that would get some odd looks from bystanders.

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