Setting Up A Server

[Biohazard]

I've read the tutorials on how to set up a server, and thought I had everything set up correctly, but it doesn't seem to work. When I launch the dedicated server, and start up Thievery, I can see my game under the LAN tab, but not the Internet tab.

I have two firewalls that may be blocking me, but I don't think this is the problem. I have a Lynksis router, which I have opened the ports 7777-7799. (I wasn't sure which ports exactly were the Thievery ones, so I opened all of them in this range.) And I have Zone Alarm running as well. But the same problem occurs even with Zone Alarm off so I don't think this is the case.

I have also been asked whether I checked the box to Advertise, and yes, I have. What can I do to get this to work? :? Thanks in advance for any help.

[LaughingRat]

First off, you only need ports 7777 through 7782 open for the server. Closing off the rest will marginally improve your security while not affecting your server at all. Next, open port 27900. That's the master server query port. If the master server doesn't see the server, it doesn't matter if you have it set to advertise or not. Lastly, if you want to enable webadmin, open whatever port you have set for webadmin. The default is 80. Since that's the default port for IE, you probably already have it open, but if you've specified a custom port for webadmin, you'll need to open that port as well.

[Biohazard]

Hmmmmm. Already had 27900 opened up because that's the same as the UT port. Ok, I changed it to 7777-7782 and opened up 80. I'll give that a go!

[LaughingRat]

Hmmmmm. Already had 27900 opened up because that's the same as the UT port. Ok, I changed it to 7777-7782 and opened up 80. I'll give that a go!

If I'm understanding the way the master server works, it also takes a while before a new server shows up. The master server only updates its database of servers every hour oro two hours or something like that. Keep it running for half a day, and if it's still not showing, something else is the problem.

[Biohazard]

Hmmmmm. Already had 27900 opened up because that's the same as the UT port. Ok, I changed it to 7777-7782 and opened up 80. I'll give that a go!

If I'm understanding the way the master server works, it also takes a while before a new server shows up. The master server only updates its database of servers every hour oro two hours or something like that. Keep it running for half a day, and if it's still not showing, something else is the problem.

Yeah, it showed up eventually.

[LaughingRat]

Yeah, it showed up eventually.

Yep, saw it. Congrats!

[Biohazard]

I won't be able to continue to host it however. It's great for other people to be able to play, but I can't join without bogging down the server.

I called my ISP, and they informed me the type of connection I signed up for has excellent d/l speeds, and below average upload speeds. Guess I should have looked at that before getting it. Oh well. I guess I'll have to try to get Nemesis to put up his server again.

*Goes off to find Nem and beat him with The Wooden Stick.*

[Biohazard]

Our avatars blend together well! Just scroll up and down the page a few times. :lol:

[LaughingRat]

You may still be able to, just with a smaller number of connections allowed. It IS the upstream speed that matters most for a server. How much upstream bandwidth do you have?

[Biohazard]

You may still be able to, just with a smaller number of connections allowed. It IS the upstream speed that matters most for a server. How much upstream bandwidth do you have?

Yeah, I knew that. And the problem is I only have 128 upstream.
Lousy ISP telling me how "fast" it was...

[Biohazard]

Hmmmm. After talking with my ISP some more, they told me it wouldn't cost much more to lower my d/l speeds (which is 1.5 now) and up my upload to 256. Do you think overall this would be worth it, LR?

[LaughingRat]

Hmmmm. After talking with my ISP some more, they told me it wouldn't cost much more to lower my d/l speeds (which is 1.5 now) and up my upload to 256. Do you think overall this would be worth it, LR?

We are taking a dedicated server, right? If so, with 256K up you should be able to support a 6-7 person server quite nicely, and possibly even 8. Mind you, if this is your ONLY connection, having that many people on your server will lag your own internet access all to hell. Likewise, you web-browsing while people are on your server will lag the hell out of them.

[Biohazard]

What would upgrading my upload do for me besided let me host a server in games. I can already do this for a small number of people in other games, so this should expand that capacity and allow me to host Thievery. But would a better upload speed be better for anything else? I'm afraid I don't know much when it comes to all of this. :?

[LaughingRat]

What would upgrading my upload do for me besided let me host a server in games. I can already do this for a small number of people in other games, so this should expand that capacity and allow me to host Thievery. But would a better upload speed be better for anything else? I'm afraid I don't know much when it comes to all of this. :?

Do you understand the difference between upstream and downstream speeds? Downstream is the speed at which information comes into your computer, upstream is the speed at which it's capable of sending. Most broadband ISP's cap your upstream speed because most users aren't sending that much information out, it's mostly coming in in the form of email, and code and graphics and such from websites and so on, and that saves their network from becoming overloaded. That's why upstream is so important for a server. A server is constantly sending out information to the client machines attached to it. The more clients, the more bandwidth it needs.

So higher upstream speed will affect you any time you're sending information out. Uploading files somewhere, or sending large attachments on email will be affected by this, as will remote desktopping.

I switched to DSL for this reason. I took a small hit in downstream speed (about 200K), in order to almost quadruple my upstream. Since my server is remote (I'm something like 1200 miles away from it), when I want to add maps or other utilities to it, they have to be sent, and higher upstream speed helps a lot there. Also, the remote desktop software we use to admin the machine itself is dependent on upstream speed, and the difference there is ENORMOUS.

[Carpe Noctum]

I'm interested in hosting a game, at least for playing with a friend to whom I've introduced the game.

(1) Where are the tutorial for setting up a server that Biohazard mention? Do I need to read them?

(2) My SMC Router is annoying "advanced" and demands not only knowledge of which ports to open but which "trigger port" to use for each range of open ports. Can someone please provide me with this information for Thievery UT?

(3) If there are other questions I should be asking, but from ignorance am unaware of, please help with those too! :-)