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  • WinXP 64 Play-by-Play

    Ok, I took the plunge!

    Im XP64ing it!

    Running AMD Athlon64 3500+ with Asus A8N-E Mobo.

    So far, windows installed without a problem. I'm installing my hardware drivers now. Windows64 didn't seem to like my 32 bit audio drivers, but I got the 64bit drivers from the Asus website and we're cookin with gas now.

    All my hardware is found.
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  • #2
    Ok i've installed Opera & Winrar.. both working fine.
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    • #3
      Is there any advantage to running windows 64?
      winxp64 only comes in professional?
      Let us know if there are any problems running games on it.

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      • #4
        Other than it can reference more than 2GB memory... i don't think so...
        Never, ever, argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience

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        • #5
          There are some benefits: due to the WoW (Windows on Windows) layer, some calls from 32 bit apps are handled by 64 bit routines, this can sometimes yield a small performance improvement (but more often a slowdown), additionally individual 32 bit applications can all use 2 gig each.

          There are a few more exceptions, one is when you have very large amounts of video memory, say, 2 512MB cards. This is mapped twice, consuming 2 gig of address space total for video memory alone, leaving much less than 2GB for system memory in 32 bit. A single 512MB card would probably not work with 3GB memory either.

          Apart from that, the main benefit is that you can run faster 64 bit applications. Apart from a few games and a some specialist applications, the only one i know of that would see every day use is 7-zip, see http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...x2-3800_7.html for some benchmarks.

          It's the faster 64 bit applications that make 64 bit worth it. Being able to have more memory only benefits you when you need it, which, as it stands today, is not yet the case for most people.
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          • #6
            Aye. LOAD UP AUTOCAD AND DESIGN A NEW STEALTH BOMBER!

            Then you'd be using Windows 64!
            ~TuF~

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            • #7
              My perfect stealth bomber requires exactly 0 bytes of memory
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              • #8
                Well there are a few apps out there that are 64bit.. very few that I really care about.. but eh.. what the hell.. it seems faster.. but its also fresh without loads of memory resident shit running at the moment. It definitely doesn't seem slower.

                http://www.planetamd64.com/ is nice and helpful for this stuff.

                Got all 3 of my printers (lexmark color, epson photo, and hp laser) to work. The Epson was the only one that needed a 64 bit driver from epson's site.

                Daemon Tools X64 is out, that runs great so far. Mounted an image and read from it without problem.

                One problem I am having after I installed the 64 bit drivers for the mobo, now there is this huge delay (almost 7 minutes) between the bios bootup up until it goes to the WinXP64 loading screen. Sometimes it never gets to that screen. I think it might have something to do with the bios because they say for Win64 you should use bios 1006 .. but I willl research that more.
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                • #9
                  1006? Asus Mobo?

                  If it is then I would recommend updating the BIOS, I've had problems in the past with Asus Motherboards which were resolved by doing so.
                  ~TuF~

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TheMachine
                    1006? Asus Mobo?

                    If it is then I would recommend updating the BIOS, I've had problems in the past with Asus Motherboards which were resolved by doing so.
                    well i actually stayed at 1005 because I heard bad stuff about 1006. But My friend said he upgraded to 1009 (latest i think) and he has no problems like this (he has same board, also on WinXP64) So I will give that a shot tonight.

                    Other than that, WinXP 64 seems pretty stable. A couple of nuances... All 32 bit stuff goes into "C:\Program Files (x32)\" now.. which some of my saved preference files weren't keen on since they were pointing to the old program files. but that was taken care of easily.

                    Windows XP 64 also has a different registry location for context menu addons like for WinRar's "Extract to..." didn't work at first. WinRaR added it to their latest version though.

                    UltraEdit has not yet added it to their files so I just had to use a quick registry hack to add it, not a big deal.

                    UltraVNC has an unannounced 64 bit version out for the main vnc server program and the video hook driver.. On their forums it says that it's buggy.. but I guess one of the users managed to rebuild it and get the dll's working properly and it is BLAZING fast now! I have DSL and my friend has Cable, so obviously mine is faster than his (higher upstream on DSL) but compared to UltraVNC runnin on my old 32 bit XP install.. the 64bit version feels like I'm sitting in front of the computer! It's amazing.. almost no lag and stable as can be. Video hook driver working great. Definitely impressed by this app. I'm connecting from work on a 32 bit machine to my home 64 bit machine without problem.

                    I will be installing Antivirus and System tools next.
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                    • #11
                      UT and TUT work fine in DirectX mode.. OpenGL leaves you with a gray screen.. similar to what I think Radamanthus showed us one time.. or someone with video problems. I haven't tested yet with latest nvidia 64 bit drivers tho I don't think. Will do when I get home.

                      Perhaps this weekend I will try the UT2004 x64 patch
                      Last edited by -KewlAzMe-; 16 Feb 2006, 10:06 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Encouraging results there Kewl.
                        ~TuF~

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TheMachine
                          Encouraging results there Kewl.
                          Well aside from the minor nuances I've faced so far, which are all related to crappy driver support, I was expecting much worse.. i really feared TUT not working at all but it seems to work fine. And once developers get off their asses and simply recompile their code for 64 bit.. its not so bad. But initially i was expecting a fiasco like trying to move from Win98 to WinNT 3.51.. nothing would run on that OS that worked on 98.. and similar to Win98 programs to XP when it first came out.. but I'm pleasantly surprised in this case.. kinda apples to oranges I guess.

                          I would like to get a benchmark program running to compare my 32 bit results to these. i haven't tried any yet..

                          I found NOD32 is a good antivirus that works on 64bit. also there is Avast and some others.

                          Memtest32 seems to work just fine.. ran it for about an hour (0 failure.. ill run it longer overnight tonight)

                          Nero6 works fine also. Burned a CD and a DVD last night without a problem.

                          People say Ut2004 x64 is 10x faster than the 32 bit version for them.. i will try that out this weekend if I have time between all my TUT playing .

                          From what I read at planetamd64.com, most people have no problems running games meant for 32bit.. which is promising.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pestcontrol
                            My perfect stealth bomber requires exactly 0 bytes of memory
                            My...that is a small radar cross section. You might have a problem with payload, however.

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                            • #15
                              Cookin with Gas now BABY! Got that long delay boot thing resolved.. turns out it was the 6.65 nforce chipset driver.. upgraded to 6.69 and problem solved.

                              Still gotta fix the OpenGL driver for TUT.. but it looks a lot better since I upgraded to the 64bit drivers for the vid card. DirectX drivers workin fine until then.

                              But its fully stable.. I will run some memtest tonight and maybe some prime95 later on
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