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    hi online,

    i was on TuF Server for play. My name there "Warder" and i played (leading to that name) Guard on Grange. Necros did Guard too. At the backside of house, in the upper is the room with the fireplace and the table where you find some food and loot. In that room Necros did camp and wait for Thief. Me and others did trap the house and we protected it well. Finally we got three Thiefs in the house killed. Then only two Thiefs were left and i run around the house through all areas, checking of traps, still locked doors, and still loot on place, u know. I run through the backside rooms too and saw through the wood a Thief down at the crates (at the stairs) running tagged around the crates and followed by a Bot. So i run through the rooms and hurried to get the Thief before the Tagarrow would disable. So i did as i come to the Thief, the Bot killed him. (hehehe). Then Necros came out of his room, shouting "who was it? who was the guard there?" and so stuff. I answered "me". He told me not to run around, to let the Thief come up to his room, where he was waiting for. I should stay in House, where he ordered before (during the mapplay) the Guards. I said "Why may i not run around? My area is protected and trapped", (like that). He answered cuz i could get ko ed. I answered with "<<<xperienced player". He answered HE would ko me. And to give that more effect he did something like "<<< me god". In that funny part i answered with "<<< me Chief Brody" (hahahaha).
    Finally its a funny story, and not very interesting or special. Currently i was on CrkZ Server and stepped in a part, where Necros is telling players the Story. But he tells in a wrong sight, cuz he told, i would have said "me i am brody, so i ignore all orders", like that. This is (sorry BA ) BS. Definately. I am not interested to let someone discredit me, nor i will let that work. So i post that here, to let you ppl know, what has happened. In which part "me Chief Brody" was told, and that it should be a funny effect.

    I ve just asked Machine (Mr. Mach ) to check the chatlogs for me. I am pretty sure, i do remind the Story well and correct. If needed, we can post the parts here.

    I am sorry that i posted that here, but it is very important for me, that you ll know, i am not an arrogant or uberguy.
    A real huge Man will neither stamp on a Worm, nor crawl for an Emperor

    Thievery Customs Center
    Vietcong Customs Center

  • #2
    here is the log :-)

    -----------
    04/19/2004 21:18Event Warder entered the game.
    04/19/2004 21:18JoinWarder
    04/19/2004 21:18Event =(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)= entered the game.
    04/19/2004 21:18Join=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=
    04/19/2004 21:18Event Lancelot entered the game.
    04/19/2004 21:18JoinLancelot
    04/19/2004 21:18Event LexIcon =PagaN=>(HUN entered the game.
    04/19/2004 21:18JoinLexIcon =PagaN=>(HUN
    04/19/2004 21:18Event Racin'_Horse entered the game.
    04/19/2004 21:18JoinRacin'_Horse
    04/19/2004 21:18Event cameL entered the game.
    04/19/2004 21:18JoincameL
    04/19/2004 21:18Event ]>CoD<[BlackRat entered the game.
    04/19/2004 21:18Join]>CoD<[BlackRat
    04/19/2004 21:18Event Sw!tch' entered the game.
    04/19/2004 21:18JoinSw!tch'
    04/19/2004 21:18Event industrialism entered the game.
    04/19/2004 21:18Joinindustrialism
    04/19/2004 21:18Say=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=hey cunsultant!
    04/19/2004 21:18Say=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=lol Jk
    04/19/2004 21:18Sayindustrialismhi there
    04/19/2004 21:18SayLexIcon =PagaN=>(HUN-=[ HY ]=-
    04/19/2004 21:18SaySw!tch'HELLO
    04/19/2004 21:19TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=guard
    04/19/2004 21:19TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=house
    04/19/2004 21:19SaySw!tch'<--- answers questions for donations =P
    04/19/2004 21:19TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=snooker room
    04/19/2004 21:19Event BOCEEE(HUN) entered the game.
    04/19/2004 21:19Event BOCEEE(HUN) has joined the Thieves
    04/19/2004 21:19TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=upper west wing and snooker
    room
    04/19/2004 21:19TeamSayindustrialismk
    04/19/2004 21:19SayBOCEEE(HUN)hi all!
    04/19/2004 21:19SayWarderhi
    04/19/2004 21:19TeamSayWarderprotected by trapes
    04/19/2004 21:19TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=k
    04/19/2004 21:19TeamSayWardertraps*
    04/19/2004 21:20TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=im guarding here
    04/19/2004 21:20TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=go away
    04/19/2004 21:20System cameL was killed by ]>CoD<[BlackRat's Sword.
    04/19/2004 21:20TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=warder
    04/19/2004 21:20SayWarderhahahaah
    04/19/2004 21:20SaycameLso lae
    04/19/2004 21:20TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=go guard the house
    04/19/2004 21:20SayLexIcon =PagaN=>(HUN-=[ HY ]=-
    04/19/2004 21:20TeamSayWarderok
    04/19/2004 21:20System Sw!tch' was killed by Racin'_Horse's Sword.
    04/19/2004 21:20TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=this wont work with more than1
    guy in here
    04/19/2004 21:20SaySw!tch'that sucked =P
    04/19/2004 21:20Say]>CoD<[BlackRatafk
    04/19/2004 21:21TeamSayWarderthat s ok
    04/19/2004 21:21TeamSayWardernice spot
    04/19/2004 21:21TeamSayWarderwho drank potion?
    04/19/2004 21:21TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=not me
    04/19/2004 21:21TeamSayRacin'_Horsenot me
    04/19/2004 21:21TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=!=! Someones Sneakin About Here
    !=!
    04/19/2004 21:21TeamSayindustrialismi did speed
    04/19/2004 21:21TeamSayWarderok
    04/19/2004 21:21TeamSayRacin'_Horsehaha
    04/19/2004 21:21TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=dont come
    04/19/2004 21:22TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=guard upper went wing
    04/19/2004 21:22TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=no1 there!¬
    04/19/2004 21:22TeamSayWarderhahaha three thiefs
    04/19/2004 21:22TeamSayWarderhurt them alot
    04/19/2004 21:22System Racin'_Horse gave BOCEEE(HUN) some unnecessary
    ventilation.
    04/19/2004 21:22SayRacin'_Horse>Lol<
    04/19/2004 21:22SayRacin'_Horse>Lol<
    04/19/2004 21:23System LexIcon =PagaN=>(HUN was killed by Racin'_Horse's
    Sword.
    04/19/2004 21:23TeamSayindustrialismbnice
    04/19/2004 21:23SayRacin'_Horsethanks
    04/19/2004 21:23TeamSayindustrialismnp good work hammerd them good
    04/19/2004 21:24Sayindustrialismnecros the fanatic
    04/19/2004 21:24Say=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=hehehe
    04/19/2004 21:24System BOCEEE(HUN) was killed by Warder's Sword.
    04/19/2004 21:24Say=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=LONG LIVE THE MASTER BUILDER
    04/19/2004 21:24Sayindustrialismlol
    04/19/2004 21:24SaycameLhehehe
    04/19/2004 21:25TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=go away!
    04/19/2004 21:25TeamSayWarderpretty sure one is in
    04/19/2004 21:25TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=whoever is here go
    04/19/2004 21:25TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=frightining my prey away
    04/19/2004 21:26TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=warder, are u near here?
    04/19/2004 21:26TeamSayWarderhere
    04/19/2004 21:26TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=go away!
    04/19/2004 21:26TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=lol
    04/19/2004 21:26Sayindustrialismwhat a guess eh thiefy lol
    04/19/2004 21:26TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=dont come near here
    04/19/2004 21:26TeamSayWarderi am in house
    04/19/2004 21:27TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=frighten my prey away, he was
    here i swear
    04/19/2004 21:27TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=u frightened him away
    04/19/2004 21:27System Geoffrey of Monmouth gave Lancelot some unnecessary
    ventilation.
    04/19/2004 21:27TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=WHO IS OUTSIDE HERE
    04/19/2004 21:27TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=WARDER
    04/19/2004 21:27TeamSayWarderme got him
    04/19/2004 21:27TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=DOTN COME NEWAR HERE AGAIN
    04/19/2004 21:27System Sir Tristrem gave Lancelot some unnecessary
    ventilation.
    04/19/2004 21:27TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=I COULD HAVE KILLED HIM
    04/19/2004 21:27TeamSayWarderwhy not?
    04/19/2004 21:27TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=RETARDS!
    04/19/2004 21:27TeamSayWarderso i did
    04/19/2004 21:28TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=u didng kill
    04/19/2004 21:28SayWarderand?
    04/19/2004 21:28TeamSayindustrialismnow now chrildren
    04/19/2004 21:28SayWarderhad i shoudl request it?
    04/19/2004 21:28SayLexIcon =PagaN=>(HUNhi warder
    04/19/2004 21:28SayWarderhi
    04/19/2004 21:28TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=no, you should have guarded
    where u were damn supposed to
    04/19/2004 21:28TeamSayWardermy area was clear, i saw thief with bot, so i
    just did kill him
    04/19/2004 21:28TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=thats why i prefer guild
    training to this, they actually listen
    04/19/2004 21:28TeamSayindustrialismThief here!
    04/19/2004 21:28TeamSayindustrialismThief here!
    04/19/2004 21:29TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=yep
    04/19/2004 21:29TeamSayWardernext time i tell thief to come up to u
    04/19/2004 21:29TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=next time, you guard where u
    are supposed to
    04/19/2004 21:29TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=adn dont strey
    04/19/2004 21:29SayWarderi guard everywhare
    04/19/2004 21:29TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=that could have been a
    distraction...
    04/19/2004 21:29SayWarderi run around
    04/19/2004 21:29TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=bad strategy
    04/19/2004 21:29TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=gets u KOd
    04/19/2004 21:29SayWarder<<<< xperienced player
    04/19/2004 21:29TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=<<<< would KO you
    04/19/2004 21:30SayWarderpfff
    04/19/2004 21:30Sayindustrialismlol
    04/19/2004 21:30TeamSayindustrialismlol
    04/19/2004 21:30System Geoffrey of Monmouth killed his own dumb self.
    04/19/2004 21:30SayWarderwanna mess it?
    04/19/2004 21:30TeamSayindustrialism<<<<<<& lt;<<<
    04/19/2004 21:30TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=id KO you as a distraction
    while another thief took upper west wing and id take ur pots etc..
    04/19/2004 21:30SayWarder<<< is chief brody
    04/19/2004 21:30SayWarderhahahah
    04/19/2004 21:30TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=so?
    04/19/2004 21:30SayWarderso
    04/19/2004 21:31TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=you have something to hide or
    sowmthing else if u alias
    04/19/2004 21:31System Lancelot was killed by Warder's Nothing.
    04/19/2004 21:31SayWardernot that u get scared
    04/19/2004 21:31System Donnchadh killed his own dumb self.
    04/19/2004 21:31Sayindustrialismlol
    04/19/2004 21:31TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=who's scared?
    04/19/2004 21:31SayWarderalias means not to hide. it means to get silene,
    not get talked about things heading to brody
    04/19/2004 21:32TeamSayindustrialismenough lads were here to have fun
    04/19/2004 21:32TeamSayindustrialismThief here!
    04/19/2004 21:32TeamSayindustrialismThief here!
    04/19/2004 21:32TeamSayindustrialismThief here!
    04/19/2004 21:32TeamSayindustrialismThief here!
    04/19/2004 21:32TeamSayindustrialismThief here!
    04/19/2004 21:32TeamSayindustrialismThief here!
    04/19/2004 21:32TeamSayindustrialismThief here!
    04/19/2004 21:32TeamSayindustrialismThief here!
    04/19/2004 21:32TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=i know what the word alias
    means, it means to use another name
    04/19/2004 21:32TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=i'm much better player than i
    was
    04/19/2004 21:32System Sir Tristrem gave LexIcon =PagaN=>(HUN some
    unnecessary ventilation.
    04/19/2004 21:32SayWarderalso u suggested, ppl would aliasing only to hide
    something
    04/19/2004 21:33TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=hide soemthing, or a fresh
    start
    04/19/2004 21:33SayWarderor just look around and check
    04/19/2004 21:33TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=but ud want a fresh start
    because ppl would hastle u
    04/19/2004 21:33Say]>CoD<[BlackRatgtg
    04/19/2004 21:33SayWarderi dont do new start
    04/19/2004 21:33Say]>CoD<[BlackRatcyas
    04/19/2004 21:33Event ]>CoD<[BlackRat left the game.
    04/19/2004 21:33SayWarderdid i stop old live?
    04/19/2004 21:33System Lancelot was killed by Warder's Sword.
    04/19/2004 21:34TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=the last warder*
    04/19/2004 21:34SayWarderpardon?
    04/19/2004 21:34TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=never mind
    04/19/2004 21:34SayWarderwant more points
    04/19/2004 21:34SayWarderthief
    04/19/2004 21:34TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=i dont need points to know how
    good i am
    04/19/2004 21:34SayWarderi am not finish with u
    04/19/2004 21:35TeamSayWarderthief at backside
    04/19/2004 21:35TeamSayWarderwould say#
    04/19/2004 21:35TeamSayWarderhe flashed me and escaped
    04/19/2004 21:35Sayindustrialismlol k
    04/19/2004 21:35System cameL was killed by =(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)='s Sword.
    Game SummaryMapName = TH-Grange
    Red Team (0)Blue Team (-2)
    Player NameFragsPlayer NameFrags
    cameL235Racin'_Horse618
    LexIcon =PagaN=>(HUN129=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=405
    Lancelot119Warder334
    BOCEEE(HUN)96industrialism304
    Sw!tch'90

    04/19/2004 21:35SayWarderhihihi
    04/19/2004 21:35SaycameLwhoa
    04/19/2004 21:35SayRacin'_Horsegg
    04/19/2004 21:35TeamSay=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=told u
    04/19/2004 21:35SayWardercrime does not pay
    04/19/2004 21:35SaycameLwhered you come from lol
    04/19/2004 21:35Event 70 seconds left to vote.
    04/19/2004 21:35SayRacin'_Horsethaha
    04/19/2004 21:35Say=(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)=t remains to be seen
    04/19/2004 21:35Event Racin'_Horse is now known as Bo
    04/19/2004 21:35SayWardertgods come from above
    04/19/2004 21:35Event 1 Minute left to vote.
    04/19/2004 21:35SayWarder)
    04/19/2004 21:35Event industrialism voted for TH-District
    04/19/2004 21:35Event Lancelot voted for TH-Breandor
    04/19/2004 21:35Event =(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)= voted for TH-Bourgeois
    04/19/2004 21:35SayBohi)
    04/19/2004 21:35Event cameL voted for TH-Breandor
    04/19/2004 21:36Event =(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)= voted for TH-Breandor
    04/19/2004 21:36SayLexIcon =PagaN=>(HUNhow can i bring up the voting
    screen
    04/19/2004 21:36Sayindustrialismdoh
    04/19/2004 21:36Event (Gabr!el)~TuF~ entered the game.
    04/19/2004 21:36Event BOCEEE(HUN) voted for TH-Breandor
    04/19/2004 21:36SayWarderneed to bind it
    04/19/2004 21:36SayWardertopen console
    04/19/2004 21:36SayLexIcon =PagaN=>(HUNyea
    04/19/2004 21:36SayWardertther u should ge tit
    04/19/2004 21:36Event (Gabr!el)~TuF~ is now known as Tanjiers
    04/19/2004 21:36SayWarderOMG
    04/19/2004 21:36Event 10 seconds left to vote.
    04/19/2004 21:36SayWardergabe
    04/19/2004 21:36Event Lancelot is now known as Lancelot(HUN)
    04/19/2004 21:36SayWarderoh,
    04/19/2004 21:36Event Warder is now known as Brody
    04/19/2004 21:36SayTanjiersheh
    04/19/2004 21:36SayLexIcon =PagaN=>(HUNward
    04/19/2004 21:36Event TH-Breandor has won.
    04/19/2004 21:36SayBohaha..
    04/19/2004 21:36Event Brody left the game.
    04/19/2004 21:36Event industrialism left the game.
    04/19/2004 21:36Event Bo left the game.
    04/19/2004 21:36Event Sw!tch' left the game.
    04/19/2004 21:36Event cameL left the game.
    04/19/2004 21:36Event =(T.W.W)=(*Ne¢ros*)= left the game.
    04/19/2004 21:36Event Lancelot(HUN) left the game.
    04/19/2004 21:36Event LexIcon =PagaN=>(HUN left the game.
    04/19/2004 21:36Event BOCEEE(HUN) left the game.
    04/19/2004 21:36Event Tanjiers left the game.
    a bit messy but gets the story across I hope.
    ~TuF~

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    • #3
      Aw man Brody where are the Servers?

      At least Challenge could have stayed
      My leet Thievery Map
      My leet UT3 Map
      My leet AS Map

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      • #4
        lol tstst bad necros!
        "Blockheads never learn, Clever learn by his own mistakes, Intelligents learn by mistakes of others."

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        • #5
          oh, nonono, hold on, plz.
          i posted that not to get anyone as bad and anyone as good. i posted that for myself. to let you know i am not a guy, that thinks he is above others, that makes what he want, that wont help out or backup. that way i mean. to make it clear.

          and thx a lot for checking the log mach. thx very much.
          A real huge Man will neither stamp on a Worm, nor crawl for an Emperor

          Thievery Customs Center
          Vietcong Customs Center

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Brody
            oh, nonono, hold on, plz.
            i posted that not to get anyone as bad and anyone as good. i posted that for myself. to let you know i am not a guy, that thinks he is above others, that makes what he want, that wont help out or backup. that way i mean. to make it clear.

            and thx a lot for checking the log mach. thx very much.
            hmm yeah good idea to post that hear and clean it out... but I guess everybody knows that you are not this kind of person or am I wrong!?
            "Blockheads never learn, Clever learn by his own mistakes, Intelligents learn by mistakes of others."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Brody
              i posted that for myself. to let you know i am not a guy
              You are not? :O

              So you are Warder O_o Damn you aliasers, hehehe

              I was wondering who that particular alias was.
              These days I find that I can't be bothered,
              To argue with them - well what's the point?
              Better to take you shots and drop down dead.

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              • #8
                aliasing, pfffff.

                i permanent use my typical wisdoms during play

                should be sign enough to let ppl know it is me, hehehe.
                A real huge Man will neither stamp on a Worm, nor crawl for an Emperor

                Thievery Customs Center
                Vietcong Customs Center

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                • #9
                  yes, but I thought it was someone just copying your little messages
                  These days I find that I can't be bothered,
                  To argue with them - well what's the point?
                  Better to take you shots and drop down dead.

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                  • #10
                    On Grange, camping one specific room isn't a viable strategy... and whether a thief is killed outside by someone or 5 minutes later by said camping guard doesn't make any difference. At least that thief is dead, rejoice!

                    If you want to make kills, don't camp. If you play guard to make kills, you're playing the wrong game. Guarding is about protecting your objective. When you protect your objective, you're bound to find thieves and then you can kill them. If you run around like a bloodthirsty maniac, you may succeed in killing one thief, but in the meantime two others will have looted the objectives.

                    Guards need to pay more attention to objectives instead of randomly running around on the map or camping in one single spot.

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                    • #11
                      i have no one motivated at the phone to do, hi hi hi
                      A real huge Man will neither stamp on a Worm, nor crawl for an Emperor

                      Thievery Customs Center
                      Vietcong Customs Center

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                      • #12
                        well, virus, sorry if that was not clear,

                        i trapped the house, placed bots and run in between the house constantly, checking of traps, bots, and loot, u know? sorry for the misunderstanding.

                        i did not run senseless around here or there. while checking rooms i saw a tagged thief running around the crate and bot following, but wont get him, so i run there (after i tagged the thief through the window ("target engaged, hahahaha")) and wanted to kill. but in that moment bot did it.
                        A real huge Man will neither stamp on a Worm, nor crawl for an Emperor

                        Thievery Customs Center
                        Vietcong Customs Center

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Brody
                          well, virus, sorry if that was not clear,

                          i trapped the house, placed bots and run in between the house constantly, checking of traps, bots, and loot, u know? sorry for the misunderstanding.

                          i did not run senseless around here or there. while checking rooms i saw a tagged thief running around the crate and bot following, but wont get him, so i run there (after i tagged the thief through the window ("target engaged, hahahaha")) and wanted to kill. but in that moment bot did it.
                          That's paying mind to the objective, I ment Necros when I posted it, not you.

                          You basically have two kind of maps:
                          1) Single Item Objective map
                          2) Loot map

                          Single items objective maps are for instance Korman/Skelltstonhead/Gerome. One these maps it's important t guard a single spot. If guards go around running through the map, thieves have an easy win, so the guards stick to camping single rooms.

                          Loot maps are maps where there aren't any good single rooms to guard. These are for instance Flats/Grange/Bourgeois. On these maps it's important to patrol and do periodic loot checks. Camping on single room is ineffective, because thieves can just avoid that room and get their loot somewhere else. Note that it can be important to protect key locations, but overall loot maps are maps where there isn't one easy to guard objective/room.

                          Offcourse there are overlaps within maps, for instance folly. You can opt to guard either the Ruby or the loot (barracks/church/etc.). It's best if guards choose one tactic, like sticking to guard the barracks. Most guards go rambo however, and don't pay any mind to teamwork... and that's why thieves nearly allways win Folly.


                          Consider the map, and adapt your strategy according to that maps type and objectives. Allways tell your guard mates what to do even if it's stupidly obvious, and allways answer back if someone tells you what to do. A simple RGR is sufficient, or in case you know a better strategy TELL SO AND DONT GO RUNNING OFF SOLO. That's basically what's wrong with guard play these days. Zero communication. Let this thread be a lesson to uncommunicative guards and hope it will restore guardplay like it once was.

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                          • #14
                            ... too ... much ... to ... read ... ... ... ... must ... believe ... brody ... on ... his ... word.

                            I've read the first post, but not the log. I dislike reading logs, for there are useless stuff in there like the joining, the time, etc. I try to read them as little as posible when I don't have to

                            About what virus posted, in a way it's true what you say. However a succesfull hunter could make things very difficult for thieves. If one part likes to stay and guard a specific area one or two others can roam and hunt. That will work better then to guard all in a specific spot, where thieves can easily grab the objective if you're alone.
                            I'm a hunter myself for I enjoy it more then camping. The result is that I can't camp; I never had practise in it. If people ask me to camp I suck at it and past show that I even refused to camp at times. This is my handicap and I know it. It's a mental thing, I know , but I can't change it without giving up atleast a few times. Atleast not in the public servers. I am more effective when I hunt and the feel of being useless when I camp is big.
                            Besides, in thievery guards know the thieves are coming. In real life you could do a few things. Either make them come in and surprise them with a trap ( camping for example ) or make sure they won't even get near the objective, so it never has any danger of getting stolen. Both tactics work better if you combine them, so thieves have difficulties getting near the objective AND difficulties getting the objective IF they finaly near it.

                            That's my 2 cents
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                            • #15
                              Yeah, when you camp you do actually feel useless, I normally manage to do something on the occasions I am required to camp, anything from relaying what I see and hear to my teammates, to spamming flares and bolts for the hunters to use when they come to restock.

                              The camper can be the key to success, the bolts, flares and information he provides can win a match, although he may not recieve any points for doing this his mear presence at an objective is sometimes enough to stop thieves even going for it.

                              A camper is most useful when coupled with a hunter, and vise versa, the hunter knows that his objective is safe, without the camper the hunter would loose, and without the hunter the camper would probably loose too.
                              ~TuF~

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