Ghosting balance

[Kiech Bepho]

This idea is only good for some games, not all, But I think it would truly make ghosting effective in many games...it just requires one small thing from the guards:

Don't talk to any AI.

Thats right, no clicking on them and telling them where/what to guard. Let them do thier job as was intended by the mapper. Not attacking anyone is very difficult to do already, and when the AI are put into strategic places, sometimes ghosters have no alternative but to show themselves.

Human guards can still do whatever they want to. And in most maps, the AI that guard the crucial areas aren't taken over by the human ones right away.

This puts no other restrictions on the human players themselves, you can still venthunt, firespam, and camp all day if you wish. Just leave the AI's alone and give the ghosters a chance.

Now the part about getting the entire thief team to swear off the BJ, thats a different story.

Kiech

[MrEricSir]

Yeah, if you move the AI the way I do, it's (nearly?) impossible to ghost.

[WildBill]

Yeah, if you move the AI the way I do, it's (nearly?) impossible to ghost.

I find that difficult to believe. There are a couple evil ways to place AI, but they're also easy to get around once you figure it out.

[Majarisan]

ghosting is supposed to mean 'don't even get seen or heard'. I do try to go fo this if I can however I thinks it the wisest thing to do most of the time. If I must get by a well placed AI typically I'll jump out and the ai gives chase, then while hes searching around I'll dash by the spot he was guarding. A good example of this is the AI in the dining room in Grange. If there is no better entrance then get him to leave his post.

Perhaps never being seen is all good and well, but doing that doesn't mean you've completed your objectives, and even if you did it doesn't mean you did it in the most effective way possible. I'm all for true ghosting but under the right circumstances I'll discard those self-imposed rules and win one for the team.

[PhaeThorn]

You think there will be ghosters all the time? No, there will be Dmers and other people too. AIs that aren't moved are a easy victom. Guards have to save AIs by placing them differently.

And as ghoster, I like the challenge of AI placement. 8)

( i can only speak for myself though )

[Omega]

I'd like the chalenge of AI's too, but some people overdo it. They put massive amounts near choke points like the doors of spider etc.

[PhaeThorn]

I'd like the chalenge of AI's too, but some people overdo it. They put massive amounts near choke points like the doors of spider etc.

In times like this, your mind can help you, instead of pure skills

[Chainsaws]

[quote="طmega"]I'd like the chalenge of AI's too, but some people overdo it. They put massive amounts near choke points like the doors of spider etc.

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I can think of half a dozen ways past these guys off the top of my head, something like that is not a problem for an experienced player...

[Omega]

Without getting seen and using no equipment? I'd like to see you do that.

[Laurence]

oh geez! my screen is BLACK compared to yours Omega

[Omega]

oh geez! my screen is BLACK compared to yours Omega

Actually, I had brighten it up a bit so you could see it a little bit better. My ingame is pretty dark though.

[Laurence]

hehe, alright.. mine to.. adds much more feeling, and becomes more fun to play

[Omega]

Obviously.

[Chainsaws]

Without getting seen and using no equipment? I'd like to see you do that.

Well, not NO equipment but at the least I could probably manage it with 1 breadhead (and yes that is whilst ghosting).

[Omega]

*sees a hotdoghead fly past him and notices that's he's getting sniped.